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wite2nr
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:56 pm    Post subject: GBB Pistol Brands Reply with quote

ok, who makes the best GBB pistols? is it marui, ksc/kwa, kjw, hfc, wa, we, maruzen, tanaka, did i forget anything? i am going to buy my first gbb soon. if $$$ wasn't an issue what would you reccomend? thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: GBB Pistol Brands Reply with quote

wite2nr wrote:
ok, who makes the best GBB pistols? is it marui, ksc/kwa, kjw, hfc, wa, we, maruzen, tanaka, did i forget anything? i am going to buy my first gbb soon. if $$$ wasn't an issue what would you reccomend? thanks!

depends who u ask, like on my pistol, its KJW, some people hate it, but some people buy ONLY KJW...so yeah ionno, depends.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KWA/KSC for Glocks

Toko Marui For Sig P226 and MK23 NBB

WA for 1911 styles
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ERIN wrote:
KWA/KSC for Glocks

Toko Marui For Sig P226 and MK23 NBB

WA for 1911 styles

what about the m9, i like the style - marui?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you are thinking about buying an M9, i would go with Tokyo Marui. i have tried many other company m9's (HFC, and a few others) and they dont even come close to Tokyo Marui. thats just my opinion though, other people may have different ideas. it also depends on what kind of gun you are looking for (M9, Glock, 1911, etc.). i havent tried western arms GBB's, but i have heard very good things; especially from the 1911 series. the best way to find out, is to try different guns at AEX or just from experience. everyone has a different opinion.....
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like KSC m9s. thats just me though
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i detest the real m9's so naturally i detest fake m9's! Laughing so naturally i go with any colt 1911, hk usp, or sig models. oh, i detest glocks too!! Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

really? my friend has a .380 m9 vairant, very accurate, i love shootin that thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WA makes the best pistols if you can afford them,

Marui's can take Green out the box aslong as your smart with them.

KSC is nice cause they have a couple pistols that no one eles has

Tanaka well stay away from anything that isnt a revolver, they dont preform well at all, they are mostally for show
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

parafrog wrote:
i detest the real m9's so naturally i detest fake m9's! Laughing so naturally i go with any colt 1911, hk usp, or sig models. oh, i detest glocks too!! Laughing Laughing


Ditto, M9s feel nice in the hand, but having an exposed barrel makes it too easy for dirt and crap to work it's way between the slide and barrel. Reliability goes right out the window.

Plus why take a M9 when you can have a Glock or Sig with a match grade barrel and 33 round magazine?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WA M9 (perfect version). The feel is amazing compared to TM. My buddy has a TM, slide lock broke, springs went out, and it blew both the seals(arf). But thats what happens when you buy used. I run green in my WA M9 and so far it takes it fine. I cant begin to tell you how much better it feels than a TM m9...Anyways, if you havent desided and if you go to the sept 4th game Ill let you check out/shoot it. Oh, and the mags dont leak Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well thanks but i dunno if i can go to the game. plus i have a cast on my right arm for a broken thumb ( ya im right handed). thanks though.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A.) Who's the hottie in the avator window, and
B.) WA are expensive and internals are not quite as durable as KWC/KWA. But there are lots of options with WA's, moreso than a lot of companies I think. There are a couple nice M93 R's out, some with meatal slides, some without. Those are longer M9's with extended (38 rd) mags and a metal flip-down foregrip. I've had mine for two years, with not much to complain about (aside from loobing too much when I first got it, causing it to shotgun-fire). Not a shabby gun at all, unless you don't want a heavy gun.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A.) tila nguyen - the HOTTEST model on earth (first learned about her in import tuner magazine). look her up on google or such, and she does pose nude just to warn you if you are under 18
B.) thanks for the advice, will keep in mind
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wite2nr wrote:
A.) tila nguyen - the HOTTEST model on earth (first learned about her in import tuner magazine). look her up on google or such, and she does pose nude just to warn you if you are under 18
B.) thanks for the advice, will keep in mind


but ur only 15 Very Happy

i like KWA gbb's most. they own.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends. As stated before...

1911's - Western Arms
M9 - Tokyo Marui
Sig - Tokyo Marui
Glock - KSC/KWA

Supposedly, the KSC/KWA USP is good too, but I've heard mixed reviews on it. Some people like it, others have a lot of problems with them. Definitely better than the KJW USP, though. The KJW and HFC M9's are pretty good too, being direct knockoffs of the TM ones. If anything goes wrong, any upgrade part for a TM will work on the KJW or HFC. The TM/KJW/HFC Glocks work extremely well too, but are less popular than the KSC/KWA Glocks.

If you want a good beater gun, the KSC/KWA Glocks are probably the best bet. The TM M9's are super reliable too. Hate how they feel in hand, though. Too bulky. I, personally, favor the single stack WA SCW2 1911's. I'm currently eyeballing that WA MARSOC model with the scalloped grips. (Yeah, nobody likes them but me. Helps you keep a good grip when you've got sweaty hands.) I've found that I don't like any of the WA pistols with the old Magna gas system. They're very tempermental in extreme temperatures. The SCW2 system seems much less affected by ambient temperature.

All gas pistols can take 134a or green gas, depending on the ambient temperature. To generically say that one gun can take a type of gas, but another can't, is wrong. Gasses have different pressures at different temperatures. When they hit atmosphere, they expand and that's what pushes the bb forward, as well as moves the slide back. Here's a chart from Snowman's site about gas pressures...

http://snowman.ascuk.net/gaspressure.htm

That's a comparison of 134a vs R-22. (BTW, green gas is not R-22.) For a full list of gas pressures, look here...

http://hondavision.home.comcast.net/sacair/gaschart.pdf

ANY GAS CAN BE USED IN ANY GAS PISTOL, DEPENDING ON THE AMBIENT TEMPERATURE. It's excessive pressure that breaks a gas pistol, not the gas type.

Hope that helps a little.
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